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The Two Americas 1900 (iPad Idea #9) by DaFreak47 The Two Americas 1900 (iPad Idea #9) by DaFreak47
I didn't do any research for this so don't be too drastic with the critique. If you have any advice, let it be how to make the idea more plausible, not how unlikely the whole idea is in the first place.

POD: Battle of Antietam September 17, 1862

USA:
-After the British joined the war on the side of the CSA, the USA ignited a revolt in the Red River Colony of Rupertsland.
-After the CSA won its independence, with the help of the British Royal Navy and French supplies smuggled across the Mexico border, the USA purchased Alaska as a way to boost national spirit and use as a launching point for a possible invasion of British Columbia.
-When negotiations with the British over war reprisals broke down and the Confederation of Canada was formed in the east, the USA invaded British Columbia and Rupertsland. With the help of its small but powerful ironclad navy, the USA was able to fend of the British while it conquered vast amounts of land and sieged cities like Ottawa and Montreal. By 1869, Canada had been conquered by the USA
-In 1898, with the CSA spreading across the Pacific and Caribbean, the USA officially annexed the Hawaiin and outlying islands.

CSA:
-After winning independence from the USA, the CSA looked to expand to the Pacific Ocean and create a "Tropical Empire". The assassination of the Mexican Emperor and the revolt against the occupying French force gave the CSA the opportunity it needed. With the help of the French, the CSA invaded and annexed all of Mexico.
-Santo Domingo was willfully annexed as a location to send unruly slaves. 
-Haiti was annexed as a matter of national security.
-Under the mask of a "Roosevelt Corollary", the CSA invaded, plundered, and annexed all Central American Countries down to Costa Rica.
-Fearing Confederate annexation, Colombia did not enforce its former border dispute with Costa Rica.
-In exchange for equal administrative rights to the canal in Nicaragua, Great Britain seceded its claims to British Honduras and the Mosquito Coast to the CSA.
-Seeing Cuba as ripe for the picking, the CSA tried to purchase the island from the Spanish. When Spain refused, despite the long and costly Cuban revolt, the CSA declared war. The CSA conquered Cuba, Puerto Rico, the Philippines, the Spanish East Indies, the Canary Islands, Spanish Sahara, and Spanish Guinea. 

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA


- AB Absaroka

CA - California

CO - Colorado

CT - Connecticut

CU - Columbia

DA - Dakota

DE - Delaware

EI – Edward Island

GP - Gaspesia

HD - Hudson

HU - Huron

IA - Iowa

ID - Idaho

IL - Illinois

IN - Indiana

KA - Kanawha

KS - Kansas

MA - Massachusetts

MB - Manitoba

MD - Maryland

ME - Maine

MI - Michigan

MN - Minnesota

MO - Missouri

MO - Montreal (Oops I’m too lazy to change it to ML)

MT - Montana

NB - New Brunswick

NE - Nebraska

NH - New Hampshire

NJ - New Jersey

NS - New Scotland

NV - Nevada

NY - New York

OH - Ohio

ON - Ontario

OR - Oregon

PA - Pennsylvania

QC - Quebec

RI - Rhode Island

SK - Saskatchewan

SU - Superior

UT - Utah

VC - Vancouver

VT - Vermont

WA - Washington

WI - Wisconsin


CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA


AL - Alabama

AR - Arkansas

CH - Chihuahua

CR - Costa Rica

DG - Durango

ES - El Salvador

FL - Florida        

GA - Georgia

GU - Guatemala

HS - Honduras

KY - Kentucky

LA - Louisiana

MS - Mississippi

NA - Nicaragua

NC - North Carolina

OZ - Ozark

RG - Rio Grande

SC - South Carolina

SO - Sonora

TN - Tennessee

TX - Texas

VA - Virginia

YU - Yucatan

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schmud Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2014
Where do you think the capitals would be located? In your opinion, Would they still be in the District of Colombia and Richmond or would they be moved over time?
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Moved, definitely. The USA would never keep its capital in the District of Columbia, across the river from the CSA and in the middle of Maryland, a state only prevented from seceding because of immediate Union military prevention. Many men of western Maryland traveled south to join the Confederate army. The CSA only moved its capital to Richmond to convince other southern states, like North Carolina and Tennessee, to secede from the Union. Richmond is much to close to the Union border.

Philadelphia is the most likely new capital for the Union, away from the Confederate border to full of American history.

I would say that Atlanta would be the most likely new capital of the CSA. It was proposed before it was moved to Richmond, it was at the relative center of the country, and it wasn't a state capital.  
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schmud Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2014
Philadelphia would have been my guess for the USA capital. I had always wondered way Lincoln would keep the capital so close to the border. National pride is an expected theory by some.

Atlanta, in terms of today's standards, would be a good choice for a capital after the war. It is an economic power in the South today.

Thanks for the insight!
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I would say Lincoln kept the capital in Washington D.C. because (1) he did not recognize the CSA as a legitimate country or its claimed borders and (2) he probably didn't have the authority to move the capital without consent from the House and Senate, half of which were in the South supporting succession, and the other half of which did not recognize the CSA as a legitimate country either. 
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Roccodog1 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2014
Did the CSA keep slavery? I only ask because history wise, there was evidence that the entire system would have eventually collapsed so it would make sense, even with the added territory that Slavery would eventually die.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I managed not to mention that in the description. With the added territories in northern Mexico, slavery survived for a time, maybe as far as the 1890s, but eventually the industrialization of states like Virginia, North Carolina, and Texas spread across much of the nation and slavery became obsolete and unsustainable. The obvious problem of the situation is that millions of former slaves were then freed from slavery but still without rights or true "freedom". The solution was to deport many of the former slaves to colonies like Hispaniola, and later Guinea, in order to avoid having to deal with them. And those who still reside in the South have essentially no rights and exist as virtual slaves to their white "masters". Basically a form of apartheid in which the blacks are an unfortunate minority. 
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Roccodog1 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2014
With that in mind, do you see a possibility that in this timeline the two nations will form back together, because there would not be that big of a reason for them to remain separate.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Actually, I believe that a split at such a critical moment in history would result in a permanent separation of cultures and political agendas. While the USA would most likely be open, if not eager, to the idea of uniting with/annexing the CSA, it would be precisely for that reason that the CSA would find such a merger unacceptable. For some time after Confederate independence, the USA would view the nation as illegitimate and continue trying to sabotage the CSA's infrastructure to someday bring it back under US control. THIS, would be the ultimate fear of the Confederate populace, and political relations would evolve from there. Any attempt by the USA to even bring up the idea of a merger would be ridiculed as a diabolical scheme to rob southerners of the rights they fought and died to protect. The only possible scenarios in which I could see the CSA rejoining the Union would be 1) if the CSA slowly broke up and the weak, downtrodden states were annexed individually or 2) the CSA as a whole failed to adapt economically after the end of slavery and was forced to rejoin the USA just to feed its people. Even in these two scenarios, there would still be a more noticeable culture split than OTL. 
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Arbarano Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2014
What about Newfoundland? And why is the borderline between Ungava and Labrador the one fixed by the Privy Council in 1927?
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2014  Student Digital Artist
The Dominion of Newfoundland is still in union with Great Britain. The border I just didn't want to put too much thought into. I can never find any good alternate Labrador borders, so keeping the border at least similar to what it was OTL helps people to recognize its absence. 
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