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Pacific Union Referendum of 1933 by DaFreak47 Pacific Union Referendum of 1933 by DaFreak47
The Great War is little over a decade over. The Japanese Empire has invaded Manchuria. Chinese immigrants are taking Australian jobs, strengthening the "White Australia" movement. The British Royal Navy has retreated to Europe. The Great Depression has left Australia and other British dominions and colonies vulnerable to Asian expansionism. The British are in no position to provide aide or security. It is 1933. What are the British dominions, colonies, and mandates going to do with such great odds stacked against them?

"Today we stand here, representatives of our respective dominions, each with a common ancestry, to discuss the possibility of a 'Pacific Union', to protect the rights, security, and wealthfare of our citizens. Alone, we are small, underpopulated, and poorly defended. Together, we will step into the future, and take our place in history with the other great unions of the world".
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JeffreyBuchananP Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014
One Question, Who is the Head of State for the Pacific Union? Is it still a British Monarch or the President?
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Student Digital Artist
All of the colonies and dominions that voted to join the union withdrew from the Commonwealth. The Union's leader is a US style president, usually born in Australia, or sometimes New Zealand. 
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Ansgar545 Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2014
Hm... I wonder who you stole this from. hmmm hmmm
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Do you mean the style? Cuz yeah, I used 1Blomma's style and I asked him before I did it. 
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Ansgar545 Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2014
No you didn't :^)
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Rereading that long comment I did over a year ago, I see that I only asked him how he did it, not if I could do it. Ow well. Not all of his maps have original styles either. So meh
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Jburns272 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Nice idea. It reminds me a bit of something I had planned for a future history (I'll post a link when/if I eventually post it).

The only real problem I have is naming the South Island of New Zealand, 'Aotearoa.' Historically, Aotearoa has only been used to refer to the North Island or the country as a whole, never for just the South Island.

Why did you let New Guinea have an independent vote but not Samoa and the other territories of New Zealand?

Tonga and the Pitcairn Islands staying out is a good touch. Western Australia too, though I wonder how the Western Australians were convinced to give up a good chunk of their territory.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Thanks, I try and avoid making future maps myself, after my pathetic attempts when I first started mapping.

I named the south island Aotearoa because somebody else suggested it on the other map. Since "Aotearoa" is used to refer to New Zealand in its entirety, and well, "New Zealand" is also used to refer to New Zealand in its entirety, I decided that having the northern island, with its larger European population, retain the name New Zealand, and the southern island, with its larger Maori population, retain the name Aotearoa, would be more fitting and plausible.

Well, New Guinea recieved a vote because it was a "mandated territory" of Australia while Samoa was only a class C mandate. In all honesty I had completely forgotten about Samoa until very late in the map and it would have been too much trouble to deal with. The other territories of New Zealand weren't actually separate territories and most didnt recieve autonomy until after the POD. Plus the fact that the whole process of confederation was controlled by the government in Canberra and restricting the power of other, non-Australian states was high on their list.

I figured Tonga would never give up its monarchy and become a full on democracy, and the Pitcairn Islands were so far away, and probably only populated by a few British scientist, that the idea of joining a larger union of Pacific states wouldn't seem necessary to them. In OTL, 1933 (my POD) was the year that Western Australia held an actual referendum on whether or not to secede from the Confederation. The vote ended against secession, only barely, because of the growing population of easterners moving to the mines around Kalgoorlie. In this timeline, as soon as the idea for a "Pacific Union" goes public, politicians in Western Australia use the negative public opinion of Western Australians toward leaving the British Empire to help them achieve their goal of secession, and to make sure the vote is overwhelmingly positive, they hold a different referendum on whether or not the state of Auralia should be created. After this is achieved, the referendum for the Pacific Union in Western Australia is overwhelmingly negative.
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Jburns272 Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You're welcome.
Yes, I saw that other comment. I wasn't sure whether or not to interject there. I'm not sure where they were coming from with that. Aotearoa is one of the traditional names of the North Island (as well as the now more common 'Te Ika a Maui'). One traditional name for the South Island is 'Te Wai Pounamu' (along with 'Te Waka a Maui'). Altough Aotearoa has been in Pakeha (read European) useage since the 1890s, the Maori name for New Zealand as a whole was actually 'Niu Tireni,' a transliteration of New Zealand (This name was in use up until at least 1924 where it is used in an All Blacks haka 'Ko Niu Tireni').
Moreover, the south is actually more heavily dominated by European settlers than the north. Maori are more numerous (both in actual numbers and as a fraction of the population) and more powerful in the North Island than in the South Island.
I can see everything else, about Tonga, the Pitcairn Islands, Samoa, etc. The Pitcairn Islands are indeed very isolationist for example. And that's a good justification for Western Australia's succession. If you wanted to add another Australian state (and increase Canberra's power so to speak), North Queensland also has a secessionist movement. I don't know how active they were at the POD though.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Yeah I probably could have put more effort into my research of New Zealand. When he mentioned "Aotearoa" I had never heard of it, so when I looked it up and the first thing I read was that it was an increasingly popular name for New Zealand, I kinda just used to without much thinking. I assumed that since the majority of large cities were located on the northern island, and how population density maps show the population in the north to be denser, that more Europeans settled in the north. I also based it on the fact that actual colonization of New Zealand started on the northern island, that it should retain the name New Zealand.

I do want to point out that my POD was 1933, at which time "Aotearoa" had begun to be used instead of New Zealand, and politicians sometimes put labels on areas where they dont necessarily belong. Plently of states in the USA have names that dont fit them or dont fit them singularly.
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Jburns272 Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Indeed. I still think the Maori would take a dim view of it though.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Im sure it wouldnt be the first time the New Zealand government did something which the Maori took a dim view of.

The referendum was also a white power movement.
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Jburns272 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
How unfortunately true that is.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Indeed it is
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cjr413 Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Very nice map, I like the style. My only suggestion is to make the outlines darker, I can't really read the right hand side of the map.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Student Digital Artist
If you really want to see things more clearly, just get on a labtop and push the screen back a pit. The indirectness of the light will make the darks seem darker and easier to see.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Thanks, but the coasts are supposed to be that light. If you have to work at understanding a map, you are more likely to appreciate the complexity of the idea when you finally get it.

I dont have any problems reading the right side of the map, but here are the lighter labels:
FRENCH POLYNESIA
PACIFIC OCEAN
JARVIS ISLAND (US)
HOWLAND & BAKER ISLANDS (US)
AMERICAN SAMOA

I hope that helped.
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Mr-Jarvis Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Ha, Tonga and the Outliers declining, that seems about right.
Nice work you did there!
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Surely you dont actually live on Jarvis?
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Mr-Jarvis Featured By Owner May 29, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Actually never left Europe :D

But yeah, I'm quite interested in the Pacific Islands and their history.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner May 29, 2013  Student Digital Artist
What country do you live in? :o
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Mr-Jarvis Featured By Owner May 30, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Not-so-tropic Germany it is, sitting in the beautiful city of Wuppertal :)
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner May 30, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Ive never been to Europe. Texas aint so tropical either.
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Mr-Jarvis Featured By Owner May 31, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
But surely some degrees warmer than here :P
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner May 31, 2013  Student Digital Artist
It rarely gets above a 100. The average is between 85 and 70
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Yeah, Western Australia pledged OTL to secede from the rest of the states if they ever tried to separate themselves from Great Britain.
I dont see Tonga giving up its prized monarchy in support of more democratic values.
Im not sure, but I thought that the Pitcairn Islands had few-to-no perminent inhabitants, and any that were living there were probably British. The islands are a bit out of the way of Japanese expanionism anyway.
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Mr-Jarvis Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Hm, your Picairn-Henderson-Idea sounds about right (but wouldn't that also apply to Norfolk Island ;) ).

What do you think about the New Herbides/Vanuatu joining? In OTL they were governed by the UK and France as a condominium, and and the earlier days of the joint Naval Commission they even tried to gain independence; so I could imagine they would be begging for a membership in the Union.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner May 28, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I dont think so, since Norfolk Island has a population of 2,302, while the Pitcairn Islands have only a population of 48, who all live in the capital, which is also the only settlement. Besides, Norfolk's population was closer, and more heavily affected by the media and politics of Australia than the Pitcairns were/are.

As for the New Hebrides, I considered having them join in on the referendum, but after some research I decided that it was unlikely that the French population would approve of joining a predominantly English speaking federation and separating itself from its mother country.
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Mr-Jarvis Featured By Owner May 29, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Ah, I see.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner May 29, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Maybe sometime during the cold war.
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Mr-Jarvis Featured By Owner May 30, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Yeah, maybe as an aftereffect of the Suez Crisis or something.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner May 30, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Possibly. If I ever do decide to make another map of this scenario, it wont be for quite a while.
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mdc01957 Featured By Owner May 27, 2013
It'd be nice to see a follow-up map to this.
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner May 27, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Like what specifically?
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mdc01957 Featured By Owner May 27, 2013
Like what becomes of the Union after, say, 50 years or so?
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DaFreak47 Featured By Owner May 27, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Lets see, 1983... I havent put all that much thought into it, but the PU would have had a profound affect on the outcome of WWII in the Pacific theater. In the years before the war, the gov. would have used fear of Japanese expansionism to urge the country to further industrialize, be more self sufficient, and prepare for war. Racism would certainly increase against Asian immigrants, but the Union would have grown in strength and influence. The Japanese would have less success against Union forces, and with the aide of the US, Japan could be defeated without the use of the atom bomb, which would have changed the Cold War drastically.

Sorry for the rambling. Its good to brainstorm.
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mdc01957 Featured By Owner May 28, 2013
More brainstorming doesn't hurt anyone. ^^
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